Thank you for the reply, I tried three different usb keyboards, all by different manufacturers. Removed the sdd as well, and tried that, still the same old thing. This is one of those from the medical company, it had winxp embedded, but it was worthless to me with the passwords invoked and also to small for what I wanted to do with it. So I will be getting a 1.8 inch drive and trying that. The screen is dim and I am not sure how I am going to solve that problem yet. Again thanks for the reply and I will keep trying, maybe it will just be a cool paper weight and a reminder not to buy computers that are listed as non working.